Lonnie Burr, one of the original Mousekateers on the old Disney Mickey Mouse Club, wrote the following: "The series was innocuous but it was not merely entertainment. It foreshadowed the didacticism of "Sesame Street" and shows of that kidney.

I've never seen "kidney" used in this way. What's he mean?

My first guess is that he meant to write: "kind," and spellcheck recognized a legitimate word when it saw "kidney."

Deeper analysis might be found in the appendix.

[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Sun Dec 7th, 2003 at 11:49.]

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Originally posted by Asa Lovejoy:
Lonnie Burr, one of the original Mousekateers on the old Disney _Mickey Mouse Club_, wrote the following: "The series was innocuous but it was not merely entertainment. It foreshadowed the didacticism of "Sesame Street" and shows of that kidney.

I've never seen "kidney" used in this way. What's he mean?

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I've seen this although it might be a British usage. I had assumed it to be a slang jocular usage formed from "kind" though it is relatively common to hear "of that kidney" or "of another kidney".
However checking my dictionary (Collins 2nd Edition) I find no notation that it is anything other than a legitimate word.

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kidney...

4. class, type or disposition (esp. in phrases of the same or a different kidney). {of uncertain origin}

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Why should I let the toad work
Squat on my life ?
Can't I use my wit as a pitchfork
And drive the brute off ?
Read all about my travels around the world here.
Read even more of my travel writing and poems on my weblog.

Completely unfamiliar to me. You Brits do have an odd way of speaking.

Is the actress British?

Is the actress British?

Probably Italian or Bulgarian, as "she" has a beard! Lonnie was a male Mousekateer. Poor Shufitz, never got to watch the Mickey Mouse Club as a child! I'm sure your shrink will make a lot of that severe deprivation!

That use of kidney is strange to me too. I thought maybe Jerry was right.

I loved Annette Funicello! I used to think I looked just like her; now I wonder what I was thinking!

I've never heard of it before.

If you type "kidn" the spellcheck offers "kind" as an alternative; if you type "kidne" it offers "kidney". I suspect that it was a miss-typing and maybe the autocorrect was set to substitute "kidney".

Sadly people now rarely bother to get their work proofed (see my posting elsewhere)

Richard English

Suspecting an error in transliteration I googlized "lonnie burr" and found this LINK

Maybe someone can get in touch with Mr. Burr and ask about his adrenal drift.

Ah, yes... Annette Funicello. My first hotie and star of countless pre-pubescent fantasies I wouldn't even understand till much later.

Along those lines, no discussion involving the word "kidney" is complete without the following cross-threaded input though (fair warning!) those of you with extremely delicate sensibilities may be wise to opt out of this post at this point.

(The title is mine. The limerick, alas, is not.)


Hail to Thee, Annette Funicello, Australian Thou Never Wert.

There once was a woman from Sydney
Who liked it clear up to her kidney.
A man from Quebec
Shoved it up to her neck.
Well, he had a big one, now, didney!


(You were warned...)

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Originally posted by Richard English:
If you type "kidn" the spellcheck offers "kind" as an alternative; if you type "kidne" it offers "kidney". I suspect that it was a miss-typing and maybe the autocorrect was set to substitute "kidney".

Sadly people now rarely bother to get their work proofed (see my posting elsewhere)

Richard English

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The dictionary quote in my post above while not from the OED is a genuine definition of the word "kidney" from Collins Dictionary. Without an OED to hand I can't say for sure but I'll bet you a pint it's in there too.

It seems to be a legitimate if obscure use of the word and all the suggestions that it is a proof reading error are unnecessary.

Why should I let the toad work
Squat on my life ?
Can't I use my wit as a pitchfork
And drive the brute off ?
Read all about my travels around the world here.
Read even more of my travel writing and poems on my weblog.

Ah, yes... Annette Funicello. My first hotie and star of countless pre-pubescent
fantasies I wouldn't even understand till much late
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CJ, I dare say that Annette did more for the sale of Kleenex among those of us who were pubescent males back then than all the head colds in the world!

If you tell Britney that she has an attractive body she probably won't hold it against you.


Always helpful.

~~~ jerry

[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Mon Dec 8th, 2003 at 18:54.]

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(You were warned...)

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Hmmmm, it reminds me of an X-rated Wordcraft chat we had on a Saturday recently. It was purely my fault; Shufitz didn't want to post the limericks, but I said they'd be fine. If I recall, we had a dead silence for about 10 minutes!

I confess I was following up on the typo suggestion and hadn't checked the dictionary.

The OED says, "temperament, nature, kind" and suggests it's from Middle English.

Having said which, I have never used or heard of it.

Richard English

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The OED says, "temperament, nature, kind" and suggests it's from Middle English.

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Using these three definitions then, the OED would approve of the sentence: "He was high-strung with a nervous kidney (it was just his kidney) although he was always kidney to animals."

I keep telling you the ol' book needs a rewrite! I'm workin' on it as fast as I can.


True confession time: All my life I have used the word "temperment" (without the "A") and now discover that it's not even a word. Once again thanks to this board for improving my grasp of our own beloved Mother Tongue.

Actually no. "Kind" is used in this definition in the sense of "type" as in "...Budweiser is believed by some to be a kind of beer..."

Richard English

Budweiser is
believed by some to be a kind of beer..."
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No, you're kiddnny!

Isn't it time we talked about bladders? I mean, eurethra for them or against them.

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Originally posted by Richard English:
Actually no. "Kind" is used in this definition in the sense of "type" as in "...Budweiser is believed by some to be a kind of beer..."

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Actually yes. "Kidney" is used in that post in the sense of "a joke" as in "This is the kidney of humor that occasionally eludes R.E."


(Excellent pun, by the way, A.L.!)

Three days ago I suggested someone should get in touch with Lonnie and ask if he meant "kind" or "kidney."

Then I asked him myself.

Today I received his reply, as follows"

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From: LonnieMMC@aol.com
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 06:34:22 EST
Subject: kidney, ilk
To: jerryt@interpac.net

Jerry:

Although written in 1980, yes, I meant kidney re Webster's III: kidney - 2) sort or kind esp. persuasion, disposition, or temperament. I assume I was merely using stylistic flair to maintain reader interest.

Lonnie

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So that settles that.

~~~ jerry

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I assume I was merely using stylistic flair to maintain reader interest...

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...having no nude photographs of Annette Funicello handy which, frankly, do a much better job.

...having no nude photographs of Annette Funicello handy which, frankly, do a much
better job.
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Alas, the lass is an MS victim, and is not likely the lithe little libido lighter-upper that we remember.

Hey, why don't you invite Lonnie to this board? He's surely got the smarts!

Asa, the nurse in me has to say that people with MS can be managed quite successfully. (There my professional duty is done! )

Jerry, great job writing Lonnie! Yes, do invite him!