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I recently advertised on Craigslist for a renter to occupy an empty bedroom. I specified "nonsmoker," but several respondents said they "420." I know this is some kind of drug slang for marijuana smoking, but what is its origin, and why the )&&^!$#@ would they not consider it to be smoking?


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The San Francisco Bay Area, of course.
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why the )&&^!$#@ would they not consider it to be smoking?

Because it's not tobacco. Some people make the distinction.
 
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Because it's not tobacco. Some people make the distinction.

Sounds as if they've used enough of the stuff to get really stupid!


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Some people don't mind marijuana smoke but dislike cigarette smoke. Marijuana smoke doesn't saturate clothes and furniture the way tobacco smoke does, and there's generally less of it.
 
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Some people don't mind marijuana smoke but dislike cigarette smoke. Marijuana smoke doesn't saturate clothes and furniture the way tobacco smoke does, and there's generally less of it.

All those banned substances are certainly conducive to fine living.
 
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Marijuana smoke doesn't saturate clothes and furniture the way tobacco smoke does, and there's generally less of it.
Ah...not sure I agree with that.

To answer your question, Asa, it comes from the police code that is used for marijuana. It may have started in SF, but it is common all over now, at least that's what my anonymous expert says. Wink

I wonder how many here remember that discussion we had a long time ago here about marijuana. It was eye opening . Rereading it again reminds me how much I miss CJ here. I know he used to go off on tangents, but he used to lighten us up a lot and I appreciate that from time to time.

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I had always thought that smokers of marijuana would usually mix it with tobacco. Is that not the case?


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I grew up in southern Sonoma county which is the next county over from Marin (wherein San Rafael High lies). I never heard the term used at our high school roughly in the same time period. The High Times story is widely cited, but not everybody is convinced. In the counties to the north of Sonoma, i.e., Mendocino and Humboldt, pot is the major agricultural cash crop.

I had always thought that smokers of marijuana would usually mix it with tobacco. Is that not the case?

Not in the USA, arnie. It's more of a European and North African tradition. And more often than not, with hashish than loose-leaf marijuana.


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Where I work (a lawn and garden equipment dealership) when one enters "420" into our business software, it displays this: http://www.shindaiwa.com/suppo...partslists/index.php They make weed trimmers. Coincidence? Roll Eyes


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Because it's not tobacco. Some people make the distinction.

Sounds as if they've used enough of the stuff to get really stupid!

Easy for you to say--I was a daily user for 40+ years with no diminunition of my faculties. As far as smoking goes, using a vaporizer with a good HEPA air cleaner close at hand will obviate any clinging noxious effects. " We ought not to talk about/ That which we know nothing about."
 
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Some people don't mind marijuana smoke but dislike cigarette smoke. Marijuana smoke doesn't saturate clothes and furniture the way tobacco smoke does, and there's generally less of it.

All those banned substances are certainly conducive to fine living.

You need to check how many states DON'T ban it for some or substantially all of their citizens. I expect within 5 years if only for revenue purposes Cannabis in all its forms will be Federally legal then what say ye? Especially if it's used as a medication as it is so many places, it may actually be illegal to refuse to rent to a Cannabis user. Certainly a lawyer for the plaintiff would successfully argue thus. Also I'd be interested in a definition of "fine living" or are you only playing to the gallery?
 
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I had always thought that smokers of marijuana would usually mix it with tobacco. Is that not the case?

Much common in Europe; not so much here...except with hard-core polydrug abusers.
 
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Marijuana smoke doesn't saturate clothes and furniture the way tobacco smoke does, and there's generally less of it.
Ah...not sure I agree with that.

To answer your question, Asa, it comes from the police code that is used for marijuana. It may have started in SF, but it is common all over now, at least that's what my anonymous expert says. Wink

I wonder how many here remember that discussion we had a long time ago here about marijuana. It was eye opening . Rereading it again reminds me how much I miss CJ here. I know he used to go off on tangents, but he used to lighten us up a lot and I appreciate that from time to time.

The origin of the 420 is pure counter-culture with nothing to do with polizei codes. See this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4...8cannabis_culture%29 I don't propose that Wikipedia.org is the be-all and end-all for information but this makes a modicum of sense.
 
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BTW, we have no effective way of taking back huge swaths of California National Forests from the Mexican cartels unless we remove the illegal prices and thus inflated profits from this substance...Did I mention the taxes we are losing collecting due to to the underground economy?
 
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