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Shakespeare's sonnets were published in 1609, no doubt without authorization, by the unsavory Thomas Thorpe (1580-1614), described as "a publishing understrapper of piratical habits" who "hung about scriveners' shops" in order to pinch manuscripts.

A friend sent me the above, and knowing I like words, he asked me about "understrapper." Looking it up, I see that it means a "petty fellow," but I've not heard it before. Have you? Does its etymology have anything to do with putting together the words "under" and "strapper," do you think?
 
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Just wild speculation on my part, but since the lowest part of a saddle is the girth strap, it might allude to that. He wouldn't be fit to sit atop the horse.
 
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Encarta says that it comes from strapper in the sense of “person who straps or harnesses horses.”

Hence a person in a lowly occupation.


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Good analytic skills, Asa!

Arnie, is it ever used in England? I don't think we use it.
 
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Not now. I think it's obselete.


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I can date it to 1704 but have found no reference to its roots. It seems reasonable to assume that it was to do with horses as that was certainly a lowly job at the time.
 
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The OED Online gives as one of the meanings of strapper (1828) was "One who straps or grooms horses, chiefly Austral. in later use," and that, by 1854, strap became a transitive verb meaning "To groom (a horse)." It seems likely to me that these meanings were derived from understrapper, "An underling; a subordinate agent; an assistant." (1704, as Doad said).

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From MSN Encarta Dictionary:
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understrapper

noun
subordinate: an underling or subordinate

[Early 18th century. Formed from strapper in the sense of “person who straps or harnesses horses.”]


M-W agrees, but doesn't give a date.

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