(To "pie" is to take a tray of type that has been set and to scramble it utterly. I suppose if that happened once and now you did it again...you're in trouble with the Chief Compositor!)
PS I have a couple of nice follow-ups but they lead to a dead end so I'll wait...
Question for you experts in this game...When you come up with your answers, do you think ahead to what other possible words will be? Maybe that's my problem because I don't do that.
You bet...and that's part of the challenge, coming up with words that don't lead to dead ends. For example -
but now what? See-how-clever-I-am, but it brings the game screeching to a halt. That's counterproductive, (Unless that's your goal after all - Stump-the-Experts, as it were - but that's a different game entirely!)
gramble (tee hee)
Note: Can we figure out how to get rid of the "re" at the beginning?
retained (or remailed)
remand (not needed but it's such a nice word I didn't have the heart to leave it out)
[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Sat Jun 7th, 2003 at 20:02.]
Back to where we started!
Someone want to start with a new word? Or shall we continue with cake?
In my whiniest voice, I just want you all to know that I would think of one, only to be beaten to it! I was so looking forward to posting "replied" after "repied", but came to the computer to see "repies", "repiles" and then "reptiles"; of course those were better than mine anyway...so my whine is even louder! I hate not being good at games!
BTW, I couldn't find "repiles" in dictionary.com nor onelook; what does it mean?
I'd better be the one to rationalize --er, defend it...
If one makes a pile of, say, poker chips, and then it is knocked over ("pied," as it were), and then one decides they really should be piled up, what does one do? repiles them, of course.
(Okay, okay, so it isn't in onelook.com. Who ya gonna believe, anyway, me or some strange dictionary? Consider it "onelook.com-derivable.")
quote:Well, I suddenly don't feel quite so whiney!
The fact is, it should be a word, if it isn't. I will try Bailey's 1727 dictionary; who knows, maybe it got lost over the years as "epicaricacy" did.
Circling, changing each letter, and then changing back.
okay I think I am done now
Looks like we have a new version of the game going! I'm game! And a heartfelt welcome back to blues! We've missed your voice here on the forum.
I have the feeling that there are relatively few common words that can't be transformed into each other by following these rules. (Not zero, certainly - I can't think of a single thing to follow "syzygy," for example, or "xysma" - but not many, for reasonable words.) At least the short ones, say six letters or less...
How 'bout penny...dollar?
[This message was edited by haberdasher on Fri Jun 13th, 2003 at 19:03.]
Here's my best shot (bottom line: a pain!!)
Old saying: "Ching-chong Chinaman, sittin' on a fence, tryna make a dollar outta fifteen cents."
cent ... pound
You can add another dimension of difficulty and make the game even more interesting if you post the "starting" word and the "ending" word.
Sorta like ==>
How about NEVER ... SUNDAY ??
[This message was edited by tinman on Thu Jun 12th, 2003 at 22:17.]
I couldn't make them work either without taking a few liberties, but that said:
diller (you know, the one who puts the spice into the pickle brine)
dillar (as in "a dillar, a dollar, a ten-o'clock scholar...")
undry (in the spirit of re-pile)
(In some cases using a relatively loose definition of the word "word")
Okay, let's try
and take it from there...
Hey, anyone wanna leave some new words for this ever changing game?
aardvark ....... zebra
Aw, c'mon, Jerry, are you trying to play the game or spoil it? You win, we give up, they're both dead ends.
"... relatively few common words that can't be transformed into each other by following these rules. (Not zero, certainly - I can't think of a single thing to follow "syzygy," for example, or "xysma" - but not many, for reasonable words.)"
Let's back up and start over. How about
single ===> many
[This message was edited by haberdasher on Fri Jun 13th, 2003 at 19:40.]
Most of what I do is done in a spirit of fun.
The "aardvark ... zebra" thing was posted in a rare moment of youthful exhuberance.
No malice intended.
Haberdasher, you are too good for me!
I'll be honest; I don't have the knack for this yet, so I have no idea how to choose the words.
I can't do Stupid; will you take Dummy?
Apple ===> Dell
WORDS ... PHRASE
We haven't decided whether an added or deleted letter is permitted to be in the middle of the word, or only at the start or finish. For this one, middle-permission is granted, because I suspect that's the only way you can move from "phrase".
May I please ask someone else to post the next two words because I am not good at that? Thanks!
please ===> thanks
free ..... style
[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Sun Jun 15th, 2003 at 8:53.]
Great, Jerry! I thought I had you on "lee" or "lea", but they are both legitimate words.
Not to be picky, but ...
Jerry, not to be picky, but ...
"thees" entered into google gets 14,200 hits
versus only 92 for "swores"
... moving right along ....
I yield to thee.
How about a grand tour through the integers?
one ===> ===> ... ===> ===> ten
stopping at all the intermediate numbers along the way?
(I think we've agreed to be generous in our definition of allowable words, but we really don't need to invoke this here...)
I am the culprit here. I questioned "repiles". Yes, I think haberdasher is right that we have to be generous. However, you are correct, Jerry; "swores" doesn't work. Correction:
As far as haberdasher's suggestion, do you want someone to go through all the numbers, one through ten? It doesn't seem possible to me, or if it is, wouldn't it take forever? Am I understanding this correctly? Just when I catch on a bit, the rules get a lot harder!
Well, I don't feel particularly generous. There must be a standard; otherwise any nonce word will do. I propose the word must be found and defined at dictionary.com, since everyone on this board has access to that site. I would not allow acronyms, such as thees, that are found but not defined at dictionary.com; they are linked to Acronym Finder. I would only allow those acronyms, such as radar and awol that are found and defined at dictionary.com.
By the way, repiles would not qualify.
I can tell thee that I love thee.
How many thees in that?
[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Mon Jun 16th, 2003 at 2:18.]
(PS: also possible, but less picturesque, is
and can be made shorter still if you'll accept "two-tho-the")
[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Mon Jun 16th, 2003 at 9:15.]
...could have gone straight from SEX to see to seen to seven, but I guess then you would have missed all that lovely afterplay !
quote:Well, with all those lofty standards, at least you have to play the game with us once in awhile!
(thanks, Kalleh, for the heads-up :-) )
[This message was edited by haberdasher on Tue Jun 17th, 2003 at 18:03.]
marathon ===> waterloo
[This message was edited by jerry thomas on Mon Jun 16th, 2003 at 17:35.]
elven (well, maybe not in dictionary.com but 317,000 hits on Google® )
elven (as above)
Telve (something to do with Turkey)
Jerry, haberdasher, you are fantastic! Shufitz and I spent some time over coffee, writing on a napkin, trying to get "eight" from "seven".
We weren't able to. I don't know how you two do it!
I bet there is a more legitimate way to get from eleven to twelve, as well.
Do we have to stop just because we got to ten?
How about forty ===> fifty
(no need to stop at the integers along the way)
...and also thirty ===> forty, while we're at it!
Edit: My goodness, Page Two already? See also end of Page One!